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No commitment, but at least a recognition that it may be detrimental to EV sales. That's a good first step and shows that there is research ongoing into why EV sales aren't as high as they could be.
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Indeed. I "rushed" my current Enyaq to ensure it was bought well before this kicked in, and hopefully a "sensible" increase will allow the next one to similarly avoid the luxury tax - a reasonable approach might be to raise the threshold to £50K for all electric vehicles to recognise they cost more for the same level of "luxury" in other cars. I think retro-applying the £190 VED to EVs is a bit harsh, but accept that there should be some baseline duty for using the infrastructure in the country.

One thing that is often overlooked though, especially by those saying "EVs should pay to compensate for the lack of fuel duty when they use the roads too" is that a £10K premium on the price consists of £1,666 of extra VAT paid at purchase. At 52.95p per litre, that's around 3,150 litres worth of fuel duty (I'm not counting VAT - we pay that either at the rapid charger, or on our electricity bill) or, at 10 miles per litre, 31.500 miles of driving before that breaks even.

I'm quite happy I'm paying my "fair share" of tax for my motoring, just not at the pump.
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I have had the letter - but we had notice at least a year ago that VED would be charged from April 1 2025. My next VED is due in July 2025, so it is my intention is to cancel the existing tax in March 2025 (declare SORN) and immediately retax it, such that the (zero rate) tax will expire at the end of March 2026. At least I'll get another 8 months at zero rate.
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Martin26 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:08 pm So all in all, there is no firm commitment to anything at all.
EV's are currently exempt from the Expensive vehicle supplement, and the budget retained this exemption.

IE they have rolled back the previous rules which would have introduced this extra fee as of April.
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DaveR wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:23 pm I have had the letter - but we had notice at least a year ago that VED would be charged from April 1 2025. My next VED is due in July 2025, so it is my intention is to cancel the existing tax in March 2025 (declare SORN) and immediately retax it, such that the (zero rate) tax will expire at the end of March 2026. At least I'll get another 8 months at zero rate.
Dont cancel, if you sorn you cant retax for a week.

You simply retax the car in March.
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Aragorn wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:32 am
Martin26 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:08 pm So all in all, there is no firm commitment to anything at all.
EV's are currently exempt from the Expensive vehicle supplement, and the budget retained this exemption.

IE they have rolled back the previous rules which would have introduced this extra fee as of April.
EVs registered on or after 1st April 2025 are not exempt from the Expensive Car Supplement. The budget didn't change that, it only suggested they might change it in a future budget.
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Martin26 wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:15 am EVs registered on or after 1st April 2025 are not exempt from the Expensive Car Supplement. The budget didn't change that, it only suggested they might change it in a future budget.
Seems to be some confusion on this point, various articles such as this one are saying Expensive car supplement will not be extended to EVs:

https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish ... ame/309430
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Post by Decide »

That article would seem to have it the wrong way round.

From everything offical I have read they are going to implement ECS for EV's and they will consider changing it in the future.
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ECS will apply in the following way…

New EVs over £40k from the second tax payment for cars registered after 1 April 2025.

So cars registered from April next year, year 1 is the usual lowest first year rate, year 2 wil be the flat rate plus the ECS where appropriate.

If your car was registered April 2017 to March 2025 then you start to pay the £190 flat rate which is subject to change (expect not as it wasn’t mentioned this week)

Source - https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vehicle-tax ... s-vehicles
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okay so maybe the confusion is that while they're backdating the £190 fee, they are not backdating the ECS to older cars.
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